Bustle Thread...

[Kari]

I figured if I started the thread, maybe Scarlett would show up :) The Bustle thread was always one of my favorites on other sites!

Lets see those bustles! It is a 7 point underbustle aka Austrian bustle.

Here is mine.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/kari7777/dress014.jpg

These are the photos I showed the seamstress as my examples of what I loved

http://www.romonakeveza.com/runway/01/03.jpg

This was Drakess's (from UW) bustle
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v663/Kari777/bustle.jpg


Carrie, your fitting pic was one of them. I LOVE how it finally turned out

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v663/Kari777/Carriesbustle.jpg

[christinas2006]

Check out: http://talk.theknot.com/boards/User/Profile.aspx?UserID=72675
This is my bustle 5 Point over bustle:
http://images1.snapfish.com/34737%3B%3B%3A5%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D3265%3E463%3E93%3 B%3EWSNRCG%3D3233846245%3C96nu0mrj

http://images1.snapfish.com/34737%3B%3B%3A5%7Ffp344%3Enu%3D3265%3E463%3E93%3B% 3EWSNRCG%3D3233846243%3B86nu0mrj

[Andrea]

wow Kari I LOVE your dress, its absolutely GORGEOUS

[bnd94]

I don't have my dress bustled yet but these are the ones I plan to show the seamstress:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a12/Bnd94/My%20dress%20and%20bustle%20ideas/DCP02666At.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a12/Bnd94/My%20dress%20and%20bustle%20ideas/bustlepin.jpg

[QueenElizabeth22]

Kari-

Wow, your bustle is AWESOME! :) I was planning on just having something really simple, but yours looks so awesome I might need to spiff it up! :)

[Kari]

:blush:

Thanks ladies

[Renny]

does anyone have a pic of a bustle that lays flat. I have a big ol' booty and I don't need the extra poof of a big bustle. :giggle:

Kari you look amazing in your dress.

[Kari]

Beth check these out:

http://homepages.nyu.edu/~cys223/firstfitbustle.JPG

http://geocities.com/sox_77/6771.jpg

Those are both underbustles but I think what you are looking for would be an overbustle.

http://images.snapfish.com/346664467%7Ffp343%3Enu%3D3265%3E463%3E93%3B%3EWSNR CG%3D32335%3B5235%3A24nu0mrj

http://images.snapfish.com/346664467%7Ffp344%3Enu%3D3265%3E463%3E93%3B%3EWSNR CG%3D32335%3B5233977nu0mrj


http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6dd35b3127cce97ec961ab63f00000045108AYuWjlq0Zue

http://www.leanna.com/Bridal/bimages/bustle01.JPG

[Renny]

thank you Kari !!!! that is exactly what I'm looking for. now I know to ask for an overbustle :D

[lunarmagic]

5 point overbustle

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/lunarmagic/Wedding/Wedding%20Photos/Reception/bustle-sm.jpg

[Kari]

Beth, just remember, the more points, the flatter it will lay because it will spread out instead of being bunched up on one or two points. Of course, how many you need will also depend on the length of your train.

If I were having an overbustle, I would want AT LEAST 5 points (like in the first and second overbustle pic I posted) but that is just my personal preferance. :)

[Renny]

thanks. I'll take my dress to a seamstress once it comes in and see what we will need. it's also got a chiffon overlay so that will play into the type of bustle that will work to I'm sure.

[aubreyandkelly]

i've seen some fabulous dresses on here and i've wondered how some of you busteled them!

bump!!!

[Scarlett O]

i've seen some fabulous dresses on here and i've wondered how some of you busteled them!

bump!!!

I don't know how much you know about bustles, so I may possibly delve more information than you want!

A bustle is a series of attachments called points on a dress. There are two basic kinds - overbustles, and underbustles (also known as French and Austrian bustles). Points are always done in odd numbers. A bigger train will require many points, and smaller trains (like sweep and chapel trains) look beautiful with a 1 or 3 point bustle.

Pricing of a bustle depends on how many points are put in, and whether or not it is an over or underbustle.

An over bustle is usually done with a series of loops and buttons - longer trains will have the buttons along the waist line. They look beautiful with gowns that have lots of detailing on the hem, or for someone who has a dress that they wish to have lie flat.

An underbustle is a really dramatic statement - and can be a bit overwhelming if you don't know where to start. Underbustles are a series of ribbons sewn to the inside of the dress. There are two ribbons per each point, and the two ribbons are tied together from underneath the dress to create a pleat in the material. A French bustle is a single row of multiple points, an Austrian bustle is many layers of multiple points. My seamstress numbered each of the 22 ribbons - when it came time to do up the bustle, you tied together the two ribbons of the same number. Most seamstresses will put the ribbons on in some order, usually clockwise. It is also wise to have your MOH or whoever is going to help with your bustle come to the last fitting so they know how it goes together.

So you need to decide on which bustle you like better, and go from there. Make sure you find a seamstress who knows how to do French/Austrian bustles if that is what you decide on. And check to make sure the ribbons are sewn securely to the gown before leaving - they tear and break easily if they are not.

Happy bustle hunting!! :)

ETA: In Kari's first post, she posted an example of an Austrian bustle and French bustle - you can see the difference very clearly between the two.

[lunarmagic]

Angela, I'm really sorry you don't like your bustle and that your seamstress won't do anything else! That's just aweful.

Aubrey - I can totally tell it's uneven. What a poor job!! I'm glad you're getting it fixed!

[Angela]

Thanks Natalie. I'm kinda like, wait...it looks like a butt bow!! I'm telling my sister to NOT fluff the two middle points up so much. Then maybe I'll be a littel calmer about it :)

[Kari]

Here are some of mine in action

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d60/whateverbish/nightaltar3.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d60/whateverbish/nightaltar2.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d60/whateverbish/dance9.jpg

[Kari]

(Glad you are here Jennifer! I have always appreciated your bustle knowledge!!!)

[aubreyandkelly]

Angela, I'm really sorry you don't like your bustle and that your seamstress won't do anything else! That's just aweful.

Aubrey - I can totally tell it's uneven. What a poor job!! I'm glad you're getting it fixed!

thanks! i feel better now. i practically had to yell at the lady though in order to get her to freaking fix it the way I wanted. she just kept saying, "oh no, i don't like like dat" she was serioulsy driving me nuts and she pushed away my wedding planners/friends hands while we were trying to show her what i wanted...since it is my dress!

hopefully on tuesday i'll have much better pics and i'll actually be happy with it!

[Poloke]

was anyone afraid of someone stepping on the back of the gown and ripping the dress or popping a part of the bustle?

[Mandy]

Forgive me if I post any duplicates!

http://www.premiervolleyball.org/Pictures/Wedding/bustle2.jpg

http://jeffndiana.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/dressbustle.jpg



This is the dress of a friend of mine's....
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da06b3127cce910e0f10c88d00000025108AcsmrNq2atn

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da04b3127cce910681adf91d00000015108AcsmrNq2atn

[Mandy]

http://images.snapfish.com/3468%3A4%3A42%7Ffp343%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E65%3A%3E567% 3EWSNRCG%3D32336764%3C768%3Bnu0mrj

[TeenieBeanie]

What's the difference between an Austrian & French bustles?

[Scarlett O]

What's the difference between an Austrian & French bustles?

Its easier to describe with pictures. :)

French:
http://images.snapfish.com/3468%3A4%3A42%7Ffp343%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E65%3A%3E567% 3EWSNRCG%3D32336764%3C768%3Bnu0mrj

Austrian
http://www.premiervolleyball.org/Pictures/Wedding/bustle2.jpg

French has one row or layer of the points, and the Austrian has many layers or rows.

- - - -

Kari - I love bustles so much! I can't stay away from bustle threads! :lol:

miss_sparky1978 - my sweep train got stepped on all night - and one of my FG's actually broke two of the points before our grand entrance. :( It had to be safety pinned together. I loved how it looked, though, so it was a trade-off. I would do a sweep train again, but I had an indoor wedding and reception. If I was outside, I wouldn't have had one.

[nikkiscott]

I have to get this done to my dress and I am a little scared to get it done because I have little rosebuds on the back that would still have to look good bustled and not bustled. I have time and I have a seamstress that I think will do a good job.

[Kari]

I hadn't planned on a sweep train. Actually, I don't think my bustle was tied right or maybe it wasn't poofed right, I don't know but somehow I wound up with a sweep train.

I wouldn't change it. I LOVE how it looked in photos. It was only stepped on once and that one time completely undid the bustle. It was as we were leaving so I really wasn't worried about it, I just carried my train. When I checked it later, it turns out it had just come untied anyway.

[TeenieBeanie]

Thanks for clearing that up for me Scarlett O! Hmmm....I think I like the Austrian bustles more. :p

[Aurora_K]

I LOVED my bustle!!
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j193/Aurora_K/Wedding/Train2.jpg

[Scarlett O]

Very pretty bustle, Aurora_K! :)

[TeenieBeanie]

I've heard somewhere before about pick-up bustles. What exactly is that?

[ginny]

I've heard somewhere before about pick-up bustles. What exactly is that?


i looked it up and found this images of the two types of "pick-up bustles" from here : http://www.leanna.com/Bridal/Bustles.htm

http://www.leanna.com/Bridal/bimages/DCP02666A.jpg

[TeenieBeanie]

Thank you fae for clearing that up for me! :)

[Winter_Bride]

*Sigh*

This was my bustle (the seamstress wouldn't do an underbustle. I should have fought harder, because I REALLY wanted an austrailian bustle!!)

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6dd01b3127cce9783c73aec8500000016100EbuXLZs0Ysa
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6da25b3127cce88733a8a0a5e00000015100EbuXLZs0Ysa

[Winter_Bride]

*keep in mind those were both while I was dancing, and probably going backwards, hence why the dress looks that way*

[Vanessaness]

I love the Austrian Bustle too! I hope I can do that with my dress. It doesn't have a waist though does that matter?

[ginny]

*Sigh*

This was my bustle (the seamstress wouldn't do an underbustle. I should have fought harder, because I REALLY wanted an austrailian bustle!!)



why wouldn't she do an underbustle?

[Stitch's girl]

I know Scarlett had said that points were always done in odd numbers, but mine is actually a 4 point bustle. I don't have a pic of it on my dress, but it looks like this one from p1 of this thread:

http://www.leanna.com/Bridal/bimages/bustle01.JPG

I absolutely love it cause I have detail on my train that shows beautifully, and I wanted something that would lie flat.

[Winter_Bride]

She tried to convince me that it wouldn't look pretty with my dress (even though it WOULD - my skirt was PLAIN) and that it would be too hard for my BMs to figure it out (whatever - that's why I brought my MOH with me to the fitting!!) I should have taken it to another seamstress, or ask to see the manager (she was the store's seamstress) but I didn't... :( I think my dress still looked ok (didn't it?) but it wasn't exactly what I wanted...

[-->Kat<--]

I wasn't happy with my bustle either... yours looked fine Erie

[Winter_Bride]

Thanks kat :blush: It helps to have someone else say so...

[Scarlett O]

I know Scarlett had said that points were always done in odd numbers, but mine is actually a 4 point bustle. I don't have a pic of it on my dress, but it looks like this one from p1 of this thread:

http://www.leanna.com/Bridal/bimages/bustle01.JPG

I absolutely love it cause I have detail on my train that shows beautifully, and I wanted something that would lie flat.


That is a really pretty bustle - I would love to see pics of yours when you get a chance. An even pointed bustle seems odd, but you are proving that it is done! :)

[Stitch's girl]

Yeah, it seemed strange to me when she first mentioned it, I had always seen odd numbers for points, but it looks so nice! I will definetly take/post pics of it. :)

[Rebecca]

Thanks Becky for this 4 point bustle! Have never seen it before but would be perfect for my dress also...there is so much detailing on the train that I do not want to get covered up! Can not wait to see your dress pictures :heee:

[Stitch's girl]

Its coming soon! :)

[MostlyMel]

Just wanted to say yours all look beautiful ladies!

Mine isn't bustled yet but the only bustle the seamstress will do on my dress is a pick-up bustle (1 point). She says the train is too short to do anything else (I'm not sure if it is or not, but here's the dress on me, let me know what you all think):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v461/such_pretty_words/Dresses/Picture031.jpg


Anyway, it will end up looking something like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v461/such_pretty_words/Dresses/PickUp02.jpg

[lizaanne]

After looking at all the examples, I think I really do prefer the even point bustle - for certain gowns! I like how it lays flat and the buttons or other design shows all the way down and is not hidden in the folds. Very pretty and unique!!

~Liza

[-->Kat<--]

the train looks long enough to me, but your dress is very straight lined and no waistline. I personally don't like those bustles cause they look like droopy butts... which mine kind of resembled! :lol: goodluck

[Winter_Bride]

From looking at your pictures, I think the pick up will look just fine. I wanted an underbustle too, but wasn't able to get one...

I think that it would be the best way to keep all that pretty detailing on your dress...

[Scarlett O]

I would think she would be able to do a 3-point French bustle, such_pretty_words. It would be really low, though, which would still look pretty.

[-->Kat<--]

what about (I'm not sure what it's really called) a pintuck bustle? :dontknow:

[MostlyMel]

Scarlett- I would think so too, but she basically told me "this is what the bustle is going to look like." I asked if there were any other options and she just said "well, not really, your train is too short, plus this one looks fine, so I'll just put the one button there and you can try it out when you come back for your next fitting." She was really snotty.. :rolleyes:

Kat- Do you have any pictures of what that is?

[Winter_Bride]

I googled it, but couldn't find anything :shrug2:

[-->Kat<--]

what about the 2nd picture in post 25? or the bunchy ones on page 1 (but they only show them on poofy dresses)

[Vanessaness]

how much is a typical bustle job?

[christinas2006]

Mine was 10 dollars per point and I had five so 50 dollars.

[Scarlett O]

Scarlett- I would think so too, but she basically told me "this is what the bustle is going to look like." I asked if there were any other options and she just said "well, not really, your train is too short, plus this one looks fine, so I'll just put the one button there and you can try it out when you come back for your next fitting." She was really snotty.. :rolleyes:


Did you buy the dress at David's Bridal? I have heard that they can be really difficult to work with. Personally, I think you should throw a royal stink if it isn't what you want. It is YOUR dress, and you are paying her to do what YOU want. (where is an evil faced smilie when you need one? :heee: ) If not, can you afford to take your dress elsewhere? I know that voids some sort of warranty they have (or something like that), but it might be worth it.

vanessaness - it depends on the type of bustle. My bustle for my dress cost about $120, plus the hem, and other alterations. Most places charge per point in the bustle, and some people charge more for French/Austrian bustles because of the ribbons. ETA: I had an 11-point bustle.

[Vanessaness]

ScarlettO your bustle looked fabulous!! Thats kinda the look I'm aiming for but not dragging quite as much on the floor.

How long was your train?

[Vanessaness]

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6ce10b3127cce8e156c043d0600000015108IaMWTFo5aE

This is more of the look I'm aiming for for my bustle. I can't have anything dragging on the floor or I'm afraid I'll be tripping all over my self :lol: Although I have to admit I love the look of a sweep train. I just couldn't handle it.

[Vanessaness]

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/dizzydes99/377C.jpghttp://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/dizzydes99/377B.jpghttp://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/dizzydes99/377A.jpg

And this is my dress incase you're wondering. They should be able to do the kind of bustle I want on this dress right? I just hope it doesn't cost a fortune. I'm already paying that much for the dress it self! :lol:

[lizaanne]

YAY!!!!! You got #1!!!!

GORGEOUS!!!!!!!

~Liza

[Winter_Bride]

My total for alterations was $120 - that was for the bustle, and to hack off about a foot from the bottom of the dress (I'm short!!)

[MostlyMel]

Scarlett- yes my dress is from David's Bridal. When I go for my next fitting I'll check it out and see if there's anything else we can do. I'll bring some pictures and if she won't do anything else, I'll be sure to look into other places that I could get it done at.

[MinkyMoo]

I actually had my first fitting this weekend and I was a little dissapointed that with the organza overlay on my gown when they bustle it...it doesn't look like a bustle. Is that silly?

[Winter_Bride]

Can you post a pic, Minkymoo? It's hard to envision right now. I'm sure that when all is said and done, it will look amazing, even if it doesn't look bustled!

[Becki]

Here is my bustle. It's a 5 pt French bustle I believe. I know the 5 pts is right, but I never paid attention to what the type was called.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6cf39b3127cce8e81b7693de200000016102AaNHDZs0asd

[purple_octopus]

I *finally* found the bustle I want. I was having such a hard time finding one that I thought would work with the pick up skirt on my gown.

This is exactly what the skirt on my gown looks like:
http://www.leanna.com/Bridal/bimages/Tufted.jpg
And bustled:
http://www.leanna.com/Bridal/bimages/Tufted02.jpg

16 points, done with hooks and eyes under the jewelled appliques.
http://www.leanna.com/Bridal/bimages/Tufted04.jpg
http://www.leanna.com/Bridal/bimages/Tufted03.jpg

I'm doing it myself, because there is no way I'm paying someone else to do a 16 point bustle. I'm making my sister wear my dress and stand on a stool so I can make sure it hangs right. :p I'll post pics if I can get it to look right. If I can't, then I don't know what I'll do!

[-->Kat<--]

well it looks beautiful... I hope it turns out nicely for you.

[Andrea]

everything looks GORGEOUS...for all the gurls whos semstresses wouldn't do what they wanted...i would've kicked up a stink...YOU'RE paying for YOUR dress.

subbing

[Renny]

I just want to bump this for the brides that may be needing it a little closer to the top, (like me ;) )

[j's beautiful]

Heres mine:http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6da32b3127cce88f6d7d1a8a900000016100AauHDdw4ZsW LA

[Winter_Bride]

Christie, how much did yours cost (if you don't mind me asking), because I know how long your train was!!!

[j's beautiful]

Mine actually only cost me $35 dollars but I think that was because when I got my dress it already had the basic points sewn into it they jsut had to fix it alittle for me and resew the points so they weren't so droppy....this particular bridal shop didn't know a whole lot about bustles infact mine was their first really long one they had to do!

[Andrea]

:wow: how long was the train :dunno:

[Winter_Bride]

Wow! It looks SO good!! :)

[j's beautiful]

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6db38b3127cce89ca25a9401200000016100AauHDdw4ZsW LA
I forget what the term they use is but heres a picture....I think its the longest one they make!

[Winter_Bride]

I think the term is "Super-wicked-mega-hugely Long" :lol:

[j's beautiful]

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6d824b3127cce8a66815bcb7f00000016100AauHDdw4ZsW LA
And another just incase you couldn't see in the first! And yes Erie I think your right!

[Renny]

it's a royal cathedral.... and absolutly amazing.
The one dress I was going to get before we changed plans had a train like that but it was detachable.

Your dress is beautiful!

[j's beautiful]

Thank you...it cost me a whole $88.50!!! Not including the alterations and bustle...that was an extra $135!!

[Andrea]

:lol2: I don't think I missed that hun. It's absolutely GORGEOUS! WOW :jawdrop: I want a big train :dunno: but was that hard to lug around

[j's beautiful]

At times I felt like it could pull me over but other than that it was fine!!

[~Dana~]

I *finally* found the bustle I want. I was having such a hard time finding one that I thought would work with the pick up skirt on my gown.

This is exactly what the skirt on my gown looks like:
http://www.leanna.com/Bridal/bimages/Tufted.jpg
And bustled:
http://www.leanna.com/Bridal/bimages/Tufted02.jpg

16 points, done with hooks and eyes under the jewelled appliques.
http://www.leanna.com/Bridal/bimages/Tufted04.jpg
http://www.leanna.com/Bridal/bimages/Tufted03.jpg

I'm doing it myself, because there is no way I'm paying someone else to do a 16 point bustle. I'm making my sister wear my dress and stand on a stool so I can make sure it hangs right. :p I'll post pics if I can get it to look right. If I can't, then I don't know what I'll do!

Heather - This is absolutely GORGEOUS!!

[Renny]

Thank you...it cost me a whole $88.50!!! Not including the alterations and bustle...that was an extra $135!!


an amazing gown and an amazing price, you were one lucky gal ;)

[Andrea]

:jawdrop: wow I still can't believe it...amazing

[j's beautiful]

Thanks ladies....mind you I found my find at the thrift store! But none the less Its my treasure!

[Andrea]

WOAH I must go search for you wds...is it in there?

:jawdrop: THRIFT STORE????WHAT WHAT KINDA THRIFT store...a wedding one :lol2:

[j's beautiful]

Sorry I don't have a wds up yet!! I really need to do one it just worries me cause I've posted one twice now and had it disappear so anyways maybe some day soon! Anyways no it wasn't a wedding thrift store ha wouldn't that be great? It was a regular shop! I seen it, tried it on actuallly left the store came back and it was still there finally decided to get it the price tag said $150 I get up to the register and it was half off day...go figure!!! Horray for me it was meant to be!!

[Andrea]

:lol2: I was just being a turd I know...:)

WOW yeah I guess YOUR dress was meant to be ;) I would snatch something up like that too :wow: you would've NEVER known...but honestly...i would NEVER ever give that to a thrift store etiher

[Renny]

I found mine off of e-bay for $85. I have looked in thrift shops but they normally don't carry dresses in the plus sizes so I didn't get to go that route

[j's beautiful]

Yeah I've actually seen a lot of dresses at the thrift stores...mostly around spring cleaning time...I guess they went through there closets and decided to get rid of them...I have actually had people tell me that maybe it was because of divorce so maybe my dress was bad luck but it needed barely any alterations ...i know now it was meant to be!

[j's beautiful]

I found mine off of e-bay for $85. I have looked in thrift shops but they normally don't carry dresses in the plus sizes so I didn't get to go that route

That is awesome....it totally set the price for our wedding...we tried to have a low budget wedding!

[Andrea]

i guess that would be true too...if you're going thru divorce or something...who cares where it goes rite.

thats like Mandy getting hers for $49...mind you it was rite from the davids store

[Andrea]

AND...who cares about the story behind it...you can put that behind youa nd pray about it if theres an issue

[nikkiscott]

I am like trying to take all this information in cause I am so lost on the terms and points and everything. I just learnt what bustle was like last year some time.

What do they use for hooking up the bustle?? I seen one pic were they use a hook type thing....do they all use that??? And does the seamstress just put a little half loop just anywhere on the dress back?? Are these loops noticable???

I have to figure mine out cause I am taking my dress in end of February. I think I need to google bustles, and get some pictures of all the different kinds....and see which one I like the best.



Yes I am back I found this on the Knot (http://www.theknot.com/co_profileview.htm?profilename=bustlebio2) and thought I would share it with you all....it has all kinds of pics of different bustles....enjoy

[sweetiez]

ohh this is fun i'll post my dress.. but i have NO clue what kind of bustle it is
front-
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f97/totalsweetiez/dress%20photos/1307.jpg
Back (bustled)-
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f97/totalsweetiez/dress%20photos/13071.jpg

and all down (train)-
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f97/totalsweetiez/dress%20photos/13073.jpg

[*alissa*]

Ummmmm...I have an interesting dilemma.

I was browsing this thread the words "tied" jumped out at me. When I bought my dress....we didn't pay for a bustle. BUT I did notice some ribbons under the train when I got it. LOL. Are those for the bustle????

I was wondering because we are planning a vow renewal for maybe next year or something, and was thinking I would just buy a much cheaper much more informal dress because MY dress didn't have a bustle...the price for the informal dress and to pay for the re preservation of my wedding gown plus a bustle would be about the same. BUT if those ribbons ARE the buslte...it would be much cheaper to go with my original dress.

[Renny]

I would think if there are several of them then yes they are the bustle. check to see if they are numbered because sometimes they will be numbered so that you know which matches which for tying.

[*alissa*]

No...they aren't numbered.....I uh...sorta popped it outta the box.

BUT...there are several of them. I think 7 all together...

I have NO idea how they would tied though....

it seems wierd...there are three across at two points..then one at the bottom.
Would they be tied to the ribbon above them?

[*alissa*]

I am thinking it would like Aurora's bustle:
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j193/Aurora_K/Wedding/Train2.jpg

Because she is my dress twin.

[Renny]

I'm thinking it would be like hers too.... maybe ask a seamstress what they are and how they tie together if it is a bustle

[*alissa*]

Thanks....definately worth looking into!

[wendy9879]

Unbustled
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/whebert/SubAlbum%206/newpicdressback.jpg


Bustled
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/whebert/SubAlbum%206/newpicdressbustle.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/whebert/SubAlbum%206/newpicdressbustleside.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/whebert/SubAlbum%208/imagew2-57.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/whebert/SubAlbum%208/imagew2-76.jpg

[Raychel]

Thanks for the link Nikki!

I just want mine to look like part of the pick ups in my skirt.

[Vanessaness]

Wendy your dress is gorgeous!!

[laineybugger]

When I bought my dress she was telling me all the different options I had for bustling it. I remember her saying if we did an under bustle there would be ties underneath the dress but did say they would be numbered to make it easier.

Thanks....definately worth looking into!

[wendy9879]

Wendy your dress is gorgeous!!

Thank you very much! :cloud9:

[*meghan*]

This is the best pic I have of mine (before it got demolished from dancing!). Not the best bustle, but it did the trick:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g234/wahoomeg45/Pro%20Pics/Walkingaway.jpg

[Christa]

Wendy, I love your dress bustled!

Meghan, I want a bustle like yours

[wendy9879]

Wendy, I love your dress bustled!

Meghan, I want a bustle like yours

Thanks Christa!

I love your bustle too Meghan. It's very elegant. :love:

[wendy9879]

It's been a while since I've been in this thread. Has anyone seen this site?

http://www.theknot.com/co_profileview.htm?profilename=bustlebio2

[Raychel]

When I bought my dress she was telling me all the different options I had for bustling it. I remember her saying if we did an under bustle there would be ties underneath the dress but did say they would be numbered to make it easier.


My seamstress is going to color code mine...I went in today and am going to have a French bustle put in my dress.

[Christa]

This is what my bustle will look like

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g213/Christanje/31107012.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g213/Christanje/31107010.jpg

[christinas2006]

It's been a while since I've been in this thread. Has anyone seen this site?

http://www.theknot.com/co_profileview.htm?profilename=bustlebio2
I created that bio! I have considered udating it but, it was so much work.

[wendy9879]

I created that bio! I have considered udating it but, it was so much work.

Cool! :D I didn't know that!

[Rebecca]

Doing a 5 point bustle to show off the detailing on the train...love it!
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k52/rdbloom/alterations002.jpg

[Deidre98]

Very pretty Rebecca!

[km]

I love the bustle that is picked up from under...

[Raychel]

I just realized that I don't think I have any pics of the bustle of my dress *cries within* Heh

[Jelly Bean]

I love this one. I can't remember who's it is but I got the photos off UW. Hope they don't mind me posting it.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/star_kitten/Renewal%20Stuff/MLW%20stuff/1stDance_resize.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/star_kitten/Renewal%20Stuff/MLW%20stuff/F20Reception0829.jpg

I think I like the overbustles better. They look like you don't even have a train.

[Winter_Bride]

Those are REALLY pretty, Jelly_Bean! :)

[km]

http://www.favorideas.com/images/bustle-over-2.jpg
The tricks of the train; the art of the bustle. We take these time-shrouded mysteries and lay it all out for the bride-to-be.
Back in the Middle Ages, when fine fabric was scarce, the length of your train was a quick way to impress the crowd with your wealth … and standing.
But by the Victorian age, this simple equation got complicated. And under Queen V., bustling became an art form, complete with all kinds of floral treatments and fussily interwoven ribbons and lace.
Today, we’re back to simpler lines. And still, a gown with a train suggests formality. The longer the train, the more formal the wedding, usually.
So, what is a train exactly? Most of us have some idea: it’s that extension in the back of the skirt that trails you when you walk down the aisle. As it turns out, there are two major types: built-in and detachable.
Built-ins are sewn into the actual skirt pattern when the dress is made. These are the kind you pull up and bustle after the ceremony. So a detachable train, logically, is a separate component, not sewn in.
Typically, you ditch your detachable after the ceremony (though I’ve seen a bride or two bustle them every so often, to keep that Gigi look going for the party).
Trains, from Short to Long

The Sweep: Typically extends a foot or so past the hemline.
The Chapel: Considered formal. Extends about 2 feet beyond the hemline. Tres chic right now.
The Cathedral: Formal. Generally a 3 foot extension from the hemline. Needs bustling treatment post ceremony.
The Royal: Very long. Diana Spencer’s was twenty-five feet! Ultra-formal look for big churches and cathedral ceremonies.

Popular Styles in What Lies Behind

http://www.favorideas.com/images/bustle-audrey.jpgWatteau: Named for the eighteenth-century painter who popularized his models in them. They attach at the shoulder and fall to the hemline or beyond.
Panel Train: Fabric in a long strip or A-line shape. Typically attach to the waist, though sometimes they’re fastened to the back or shoulders.
Bouffant Panel: A type of semi-skirt gathered onto a band at the back waist. Sometimes extends the hip area. Popular with sheath and A-line silhouettes. Check out Audrey Hepburn’s party dress in Sabrina for a classic example.
Overskirt: Gathered or fitted onto a belt you can unhook for the reception. Might be composed of solid fabric, like duchesse satin, or something transparent like organza.
Fishtail: Either a built-in extension or godet (triangle of fabric inserted in the seam).
Tricks of the Train

http://www.favorideas.com/images/bustle-over-1.jpgIf your heart’s set on an ultra- formal gown and you’re petite, concentrate on exquisite fabric or embroidery, not length. A sweep train and/or chapel veil is about as far as you can go and stay in proportion.
Heavier? Go any length. But keep in mind: thick, textured, adorned fabrics won’t show you at your best. If you’re tall and slender, lucky you! Choose any length and fabric that fits your fancy … without over-embellishing.


The 411 on Formals

Evening gown silhouettes in lightweight fabrics are pretty straightforward, and they come with both built-in and detachable trains. Sheath silhouettes come with mostly detachable ones, unless they sport a fishtail treatment.
But if your heart’s set on an A-line or ballgown in medium to heavyweight fabrics like Duchesse and Peau de Soie, your train will probably be built-in, and chapel or cathedral-length. These are the more formal gowns — and when you visit a salon, you’re just not as likely to see them displayed.
If you do, or a sales consultant brings one out, take a close look at how the gown holds its shape on the hanger or dress form. If it’s hanging up, you’ll probably see it on a molded form-hanger, bustled and/or displayed at least a foot apart from its neighbors. If it’s on dress form, great — that’s almost as good as you wearing it. You’ll see it at its best.


Glide Like a Bride

http://www.favorideas.com/images/bustle-detach-3.jpgThings to look for in these very formal gowns: check whether or not the skirt (read: skirt, not the underslip) seems to have a structure that stands on its own. It should. This structure reveals how the gown is lined and hemmed.
When you pick up the skirt — including the train — and look closely at the hemline, you’re likely to find a 3-6” wide band of horsehair. That’s the clear and meshy edging at the hemline that gives the bottom of the dress some flex as well as firmness. Notice how the skirt and train extension seem to hold that precision shape. It’s the horsehair that gives the skirt that full, gliding Cinderella flair when you move instead of swishing from side to side (and here you thought she was just a pro!).
Typically, horsehair is sewn on the inside of the hem. But most designers today bring the skirt lining over the horsehair edging completely, leaving a clean a finish inside and out. Which is useful — since you might find yourself walking over brick or cobblestones that could trip you up or get caught up in the horsehair. With that clean finish work inside, when you lift your skirt to walk up stairs, the horsehair stays demurely hidden. Ahhh.
The Art of the Bustle

http://www.favorideas.com/images/bustle-detach-1.jpgBustle, bustled, bustling. These fusty-sounding words translate into sweet, sweet freedom at your reception. In a bustle, your skirt’s gathered and tacked up so you can do the Mashed Potato whenever the mood moves you. Once a gown is bustled, it goes through a kind of metamorphosis. And so does the bride in it.
There are two main approaches to bustling: overbustles and underbustles (the French style). Usually, bustling is secured with hooks and/or ribbon, typically narrow strips of grosgrain.
Overbustling is the simplest approach, good for that obliging Maid of Honor. It involves picking up and tacking the skirt to the waist for chapel and cathedral lengths, or behind the knee for sweeps. Underbustling goes the other way—down and under, fastening to points on the under slip. Longer trains can handle a combination of over and under-bustling at once … often, with stunning results.
Additional or custom bustling is done after you finish the bodice fitting. How many bustle points you might add is up to you and your alterations person.
To Bustle, or Not?

http://www.favorideas.com/images/bustle-detach-2.jpgBut keep in mind: not every dress bustles beautifully. Ballgowns with skirts in flimsy layers, for one … like tulle or organza. All those layers add up to a hassle! After all, bustling's done layer-by-layer, which costs time and money for a gown like this — for most brides, it isn’t worth it. Also, some gowns with sweep trains, godets or fishtails don’t bustle well.
But overall, most dresses do bustle beautifully, and are a joy to wear. And as every bride knows, a bustled train remains one of the most elegant and romantic elements of any wedding gown.

[Vanessaness]

I just got my brooch delivered today! :yippee: I'm going to do a one point over bustle. :)

[jillian]

My bustle. Don't ask I don't know. The steamstress just did her thing.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/missbride/80IMG_6434.jpg

[Vanessaness]

Here's mine.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7d807b3127cce8657ff6a947f00000035118IaMWTFo5aE

I don't think I like it so much now that I've looked at some on here! :lol:

Seriously ladies some of you have the most amazing dresses!! :heart:

[Kara_kw]

I haven't even tried on any dresses yet (I'm going soon) but looking at pics of all of your dresses/bustles has me soooo excited! They all look beautiful!:yes:

[MsJessica07]

Do the bustle (do do do dod ododododododododod)

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j228/MsJessica07/Dresses/p1010172.jpg

One point over-bustle. We love it!

[Rebecca]

I had a 5 point bustle...

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k52/rdbloom/weddingday311.jpg

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k52/rdbloom/P4220113.jpg

[Poloke]

Vanessaness I love the back of your gown- the lace is stunning!

Everyone's bustles compliment their gowns so well! :)

[christinas2006]

An interesting way to bustle your dress:
http://tinyurl.com/36msor

[~LeAna~]

An interesting way to bustle your dress:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1393/1056908882_69803bb2bf.jpg?v=0
:laugh3:

Well, it works I guess...

[ginny]

An interesting way to bustle your dress:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1393/1056908882_69803bb2bf.jpg?v=0

:huh: I guess it's better than nothing! :giggle:


I never did post mine...here you go

http://i19.tinypic.com/52efm1h.jpg

[Jen]

Do dresses with a sweep train need a bustle at all? Maybe just for dancing?

http://www.dessy.com/collections/destination/1001/1001_big.jpg

[christinas2006]

I would... Something like this. It is verry simply to do. http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5d605b3127cce939395c7336400000015108AbuG7Ro5Yt4

[Scarlett O]

Do dresses with a sweep train need a bustle at all? Maybe just for dancing?

http://www.dessy.com/collections/destination/1001/1001_big.jpg

Stunning - I love the simplicity of it. I would do a single-point pick up bustle, and have the seamstress start it where the train starts to unfold. I think it is a little long to leave just as is.

[km]

:computer:

I think your gown would look lovely with a satin loop to pick up
the dress, not done a lot anymore, but the size of your dress is perfect for it. It is a lovely, elegant look as well to have your dress picked up in this fashion.

:wavey:

[*Sarah*]

This is my bustle in the bridal shop:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7db06b3127cce843fa73d393800000025100AasWTNq3aMW JA

And on the big day...I could have sworn I had a better pic!!
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7d634b3127cceb90bc2585ffc00000025100AasWTNq3aMW JA

[Winter_Bride]

Sarah, that is SO beautiful!!

[Heather107]

Here's what mine is....
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b71/hem107/Picture018.jpg

But I think I should have done this
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/star_kitten/Renewal%20Stuff/MLW%20stuff/1stDance_resize.jpg

[km]

http://www.leanna.com/Bridal/Bustles.htm

[Sk8ermaiden]

My train:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b272/Sk8ermaiden/WeddingI337.jpg

Simple two point over:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b272/Sk8ermaiden/WeddingI467.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b272/Sk8ermaiden/WeddingI523.jpg

[Kathy]

This is mine, it's two satin laces tied together

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n303/mellokat/100_2599.jpg

[~*Kate*~]

I don't know anything about bustles but I just found a picture of mine. 6 1/2 years isn't that long, right? :lol:

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l50/kdhart226/Our%20wedding/reception/kategal.jpg

[*Ashley*]

I thought I posted in here. I LOVED my bustle!

http://images7.fotki.com/v151/photos/3/336212/5063740/Ashley___Mike_s_Wedding_007-vi.jpg

http://images105.fotki.com/v460/photos/3/336212/5063740/Ashley___Mike_s_Wedding_023-vi.jpg

My seamstress had recently done a bustle on my exact dress for a show, and this was how she did it -- that way you could see the little accent on my train :)

http://images21.fotki.com/v841/photos/3/336212/5063740/dancingwithdaddy-vi.jpg

Good view dancing with my Dad

http://images29.fotki.com/v317/photos/3/336212/5063740/Ashley___Mike_s_Wedding_014-vi.jpg

Another good view cutting the cake.


And finally, just to show, here's how long the train was:

http://images25.fotki.com/v903/photos/3/336212/5063740/BabyPictures209-vi.jpg

[Winter_Bride]

Oh my goodness, Ashley, that is an AMAZING bustle!!!! I can't get over this picture

http://images105.fotki.com/v460/photos/3/336212/5063740/Ashley___Mike_s_Wedding_023-vi.jpg

It looks SO good!

[*Ashley*]

Aww, thanks! I loved it :)

[Mel]

http://blog.weddingpaperdivas.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/bustle.jpg
http://www.heritagegown.com/image/Bustle.jpg

[Trinia]

I also thought I had posted in here....

Here is my train

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b33/Trinialynn/n506801086_197921_4545.jpg


And bustled (which Evan stepped on at the reception and ruined, which is why there is some still trailing)
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b33/Trinialynn/n511244212_83276_8804.jpg

[*Kim*]

i am going to get my train underbustled as well. its got a pick up skirt in the back and it would look so silly if it was over bustled.